Words like grains of sand

It all began when I yielded to a frivolous temptation and ordered online a paper copy of Grandiloquent words – a pictoric lexicon of ostrobogulous locutions” by Jason Travis Ott.

As I first opened the book I was fascinated, intrigued and horrified at the same time: far beyond my expectations, it listed a staggering number of English words no one in his right mind would ever use in speech or writing before the fourth or fifth beer, and even then with extreme caution.
Each entry was complete with definition, quotations, dating and etymology.
Chilling.

The worst came as while leafing through it I run into a bizarre word *) that long ago some prankster proposed (badly misspelled and bare of any explanation) as a new Etymonline entry.
OK, I was wrong, it was no amateurish improvisation: allegedly in a remote past the word existed – together with the other 227 reported in the book and the devil knows how many others no one ever bothered to record.

Which reproposes the eternal question: which words deserve a place in a good sensible dictionary? How complete should (or can) a good dictionary be?

Many old words die hard, countless new words sprout like mushrooms after the rain. Keeping trace of them all is virtually impossible because the new fancy ones keep popping up while one writes, and the old undead ones keep resurfacing like zombies out of control.
How many f**ing words are there altogether, then???

I played a little with the calculator (rainy Sunday, you know) and came to a rough but still stunning estimate: limiting the evaluation to a reasonable maximum of 12 character per word (let’s leave out supercalifragilisticexpialidocious & co.) and constraining it to English (no diacritics, no special characters etc.), there are exactly 99,246,114,928,149,462 ‘words’ one can write with 26 characters – over 99 quadrillions.
Now let’s be honest and assume (a shot in the dark, of course) that only one in a million of those ‘words’ is pronounceable and that only one in a thousand of the surviving ones may make a sense of sorts if properly stretched with enough perverse fantasy.
This leaves us with approximately 99 millions potential entries that would fill about two million pages, tantamount to ~1000 thick tomes to be fitted in ca. 100 normal shelves – “we need a larger apartment, darling” :grinning:.

No one alive would ever have time to consult such a “complete” dictionary, not to mention compiling and editing it, which would be a full-time job for many generations of wordaholics. There must be a good effective criterion to prune those 99 millions potential entries down to a few hundreds of thousands, something a normal human being can handle and survive.

Unfortunately though the only decent criterion that occurs to me has no place in any known exact science: it’s called common sense and at least so far it’s an exquisitely human prerogative. To the one who manages to provide a deterministic, unquestionable, non-tautological definition of it I’m ready to buy a barrel of excellent Bavarian beer :slight_smile:
Prost! :beverage_box:

*) “Ultracrepidarian”, n.: from a Latin proverb “Ne ultra crepidam sutor iudicaret” (more or less, “Cobbler, don’t comment beyond the shoes!”): someone who pontificates about topics he’s little familiar with.

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“Ultracrepidarian” is not unfitting for etymonline. Hebdomadally is in there already, just as bad, and nobody can spell that either.

Both always were pure showoff words. You’d be an ass to try to use ultracrepidarian today in most circumstances, and in print it seems to exist mostly in books of “longest hardest words!”

But Lamb, Hazlitt, and Beddoes among others liked it and preened their prose in it. Guiding the present in reading the past is a main motive for the site. (In addition to giving you the etymology basics of all the basic English words, and serendipity for its own sake.)

I want etymonline to keep alive, in the coming world, the mental ability to read the great thoughts and human truths that people put into words before the world went mad. To read Charles and Mary Lamb or “Hard Times” or “Common Sense” or Federalist No. 70, or Donne’s sermons.

Even if that means feeding the site into the wood-chipper of AI, to be regurgitated into chum for shrunken minds wired to little devices. Which chipping and chumming happened years ago.

A hail-Mary pass to whoever might be there to pull it down.

The whole “ultor crepidam” story has been on the site for decades, under cobbler (n.1).

Your tale and description of the sifting of words from the alphabet approaches Borges’s universal library, which is a seat of madness.

You describe the natural winnowing of possible words from the usable ones. The language-cultures winnow further; this people avoid certain possible sounds or clusters of sounds as ugly or unpronounceable. The people one valley over from them might embrace those sounds and build on them (the French and the Germans).

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Yet I’m afraid we are in dire need for a handier synonym: since Google, Wikipedia & Co. made knowledge (though not necessarily understanding) an easily accessible asset for everyone, an exponentially growing number of simpletons started pontificating profusely on subjects they had no clue about. “Smartass” and “wiseass” are fairly good English approximations but cannot render precisely enough the ultracrepidarianness of the cleaning lady who tells the neurosurgeon where to cut.

Don’t get your hopes up: Pandora’s box has been open for too long, and small minds are too fond of big words and too little sensitive to ridicule. Let’s just hope that a tiny share of humankind benefits from your toil and let the rest wallow in their own verbal onanism.

Intentional madness – reductio ad absurdum is an invaluable tool :slight_smile:

Yes, I admit I cut corners brutally by stating that a ‘word’ in a million would be pronounceable: where? By whom? How long a word? (the shorter the word, the higher its chances).
You could write a thick tome or three on the local preferences about what is pronounceable, what sounds musical, what sounds horrible and so on.
And when you’re ready to send it to the publisher you’d probably come across a long forgotten Ugro-Sumerian dialect where “xwooktz” used to mean “I love you” :smile: