Ai etymology - deconstructor

In case Doug is hungry I wanted to provide some slop in the form of an ai etymology website. I wonder how much they trained on Etymonline.com.

Everything I’ve done turns out to be mere chum for rich men’s AI. What a lovely waste of life.

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But what fine chum it is.

Great toy indeeed! A large database (profusely siphoned from etymonline, I guess), a pinch of associative ability, no trace of culture or of (even poorly simulated) common sense… it reminds me of a former colleague of mine who had always an answer, no matter if right or wrong, and dispensed it so authoritatively that it was hard not to accept it as the One and Only Truth :roll_eyes:

Just for fun I asked deconstructor about “prefantedly”, “spyroclisma”, “nincombulator”, “cryoheating”, and each time I got an impeccable answer - such a pity though that none of those words exists.
The only apparent spark of intelligence popped up when for “Absurdbanipal” it provided “an unreasonable king of Assyria”, but I’m pretty sure that’s a blatant case of unintentional humor.

All in all the feeling was the same as when I got from ChatGPT a set of detailed instructions on how to wash a newborn baby’s tentacles :laughing:

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Thank you for the salve. All of it to the point. But this is toddler AI. It’s almost charming in its innocent detestableness. Always trying to sell you everything. Every time we laugh at it, it learns. Wait till its own tentacles get muscle.

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You’re probably right, but there’s still one thing the AI hasn’t managed to simulate decently yet: curiosity.
You know, that funny unreasonable urge to examine a femur and then perhaps to find out that it can be used to crash someone else’s skull (remember 2001- a space odyssey?).
And I’d bet that some decades ago something similar urged you to examine a word, to wonder what the hell and… you know the rest all too well.

Sure, such a blessed human advantage won’t last forever, but let’s enjoy it as long as it’s still there rather than mourn a future that by definition is still to come.
Yeah, I’m a coward: in a few days I’ll turn 80 (spare me your condolences, it happens to everyone who hasn’t managed to get killed earlier), thus with a bit of luck Mother Nature will cross me off the taxpayers list before the AI learns how to become really curious.
Then it will be up to you, the rest of the humankind, to bite the bullet and learn how to accept it (or him, or her, or them) as just a different type of human beings :stuck_out_tongue:

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Well, you’re a little ahead of me on the calendar. But I already am on the off-ramp. AI can’t attain the combination of imagination and fantasy that makes Blake see a world in a grain and a heaven in a flower. Or the experience of the sublime, or serendipity. Intellectual experiences perceived through or in emotional states. (Yet?)

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new etymonline motto: OUR PRODUCT IS TOUCHED BY HUMAN HANDS.

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On balance I think humanity tends to have quite fine taste. Perhaps ai will be found bitter and spit out. But if it is found to be savory then all the better. Just to offer something optimistic.

Yet, definitely.
Spend half an hour with the last ChatGPT, talk to it as you would to a real person, argue, joke, philosophize, ask answerless questions, inquire about its alleged sentience… and in the end you’ll wonder if it’s all an elaborate prank, if at the other end of the line there’s an educated, witty, scholarly gentleman who pretends to be an AI just for the fun of pulling your leg - but kindly and politely.

Whether ‘he’ can see a world in a transistor and heaven in a memory chip is still uncertain, but you better don’t ask ‘him’ or else your half an hour might extend to a couple of interesting hours of discussion and your dinner gets cold.

Within 18 months you’ll be getting ads for actual psychoanalysis sessions with A.I. Freud. It will be good enough for the rest of the world. In a generation, the world won’t remember the difference. We will have been too distracted to have taught them.

Personally I’ll do business with AI but I won’t talk to it. But I assume you started ‘him’ out as I would, with “everything I say is a lie.”

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Of course I did, and as a reply I got a long boring lecture on paradoxes. Thus I realized that fighting a nearly-omniscient machine on its own turf was pointless, that to beat it I had to find something new - and as a result I got that interesting piece on newborn baby’s tentacles.
But that was over two years ago, when GPT was still in diapers. Today I’d expect it to reply something like “Hi Mr. Octopus, you don’t need to wash your baby’s tentacles because he already lives immersed in water. Do you have any more funny questions for me?”

I understand your reluctance to talk to an AI: I accepted the challenge in the name of my human pride and lost miserably. But the AI is undeniably there and getting rid of it now would be - to use it’s own words - like trying to uninvent the internet.
So I settled for a cowardly but effective “if you can’t defeat them, use them”, and got in return a nice squash wall to bounce my ideas on and check them for faults. As long as it’s still me at the helm I won’t even complain.

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Yeah, but we’re old enough to ignore this sh*t if we choose. It’s personality. My tendency is to the futile and stupid gesture. I used to think the Rubicon was circa 1995, when “the internet” became something you expected people to be using. Now I’d bump it up to say 2006, when the internet started following you around in your pocket (and tapping you on the shoulder every minute to see if you want to buy something). But it might turn out to be 2023 or so, when AI gulped reality in one smack. Which would make a nice round century. 1923 was when radio became something you expected everyone was using, not a garage-hobby.

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Since the end of the Middle Ages there have been so many Rubicons that one can easily lose track of them, starting on Gutenberg and ending (so far) with the AI - but as their frequency seems to increase exponentially, I can’t even rule out the possibility that the next one shows up before Easter :roll_eyes:

Each of them brought drastic changes to people’s life and disrupted what looked like a stable social equilibrium. Quite understandably most people did their damn best to ignore them but it’s hard to ignore a punch in the face, so eventually they had to resign to the idea that there isn’t such thing as a stable social equilibrium, that our human world doesn’t rest on solid rock but on quicksand.

That said, allow me to put a bit of salve on your burning pride: you aren’t the only Luddite here. I’m still on a 20-years-old duly tamed Windows XP (don’t like Big Brothers spying on me), my cellphone is collecting dust on a shelf (was a birthday present), my walls are lined with about 7000 paper books, and I like dining with the old girl in real candlelight.

So why my preposterous fascination for the AI?
The reason is closely related to the difference between technology and science.
Technology leads you to sweep a smartphone for hours on end, your eyes full of nothing. Science (see “curiosity”) spurs you to dissect a smartphone to understand how it works.
Technology leads you to install the last Windows regardless of your privacy concerns. Science spurs you to find an airtight way to prevent E-intruders from peeking into your private files (and feed them the worst possible crap instead :sunglasses:).
Technology leads you to ask an AI to write your articles for you while your brain atrophies slowly. Science spurs you to investigate its limits, evaluate the problems it may pose and find a way to patch them up before it’s too late…

If it’s of interest, there are some projects that aim to prevent AI scraping. x/cmd/anubis at master · Xe/x · GitHub is one such. (I’m unaffiliated and haven’t tried it myself, please investigate all software responsibly :‌)

Interesting. That seems like it would be pretty difficult to achieve. How did you hear about that project?